Root of all Evil. The Virus of Faith part 5 end
Root of every Evil Richard Dawkins the Virus of Faith
Root of every Evil Richard Dawkins the Virus of Faith
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@TheNikkonish Sensation is a fair sign of living.
I say.. We arrived yesterday, and We will be gone tomorrow! The power we have exists in the here and now!
Would you really waste such a gift living a life as a slave to someone else dogma awaiting a gift after you havev served that dogma and you life has ended?
gave me goosebumps when I thought about that.
>>> The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively outnumbers the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here. Makes you think about the important stuff, no?
We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. >>>>>
So if one is claiming that one person could ever know all that ever is then I will agree that the person will have access to The truth.
If one is claiming to know the truth concerning the presten human social system I would hope they knew a great deal on the subject not just spots here and there and a general idea on the matter, now that would be arrogant.
I am not thrying to say you are wrong I am trying to expand the concept of the word truth in the Definite article form.
Personal truth is depends on many things, memory plays a large part and that can’t always be trusted, what we have been told from a young age effects our perception of reality, so all personal truths are subjective to the information gain.
Now if we are talking about The ulimate (after all the video here was concerning that, well there is a lot to all that is)
Now your thoughts are a little clearer, but just to play with thoughts and expressions and meaning, which play are large part in truth, newspeak, spindotoring or party line even diference in conception of concept concerning inforamtion.
Belief is a sticky one, is it not the area between admitting to not knowing and the area of knowing, though even the concept of Gnosit thoght is grey and it’s counter balance.
Ayn Rand’s logic falls apart in complex systems where all varible are not counted.
BrutusCass: SImply addressing you concern that the view that attainment of Truth is possible is a step backward. My position is it is a step backward only if one has the arrogance to believe they know Truth when they don’t. This is different from the Hope or optimism that it is attainable. I am an antagonist to the view that truth is not attainable and therefore everyone has their own Truth, or Truth is whatever one believes it to be.
I will agree with you list of restricting factors as to moving towards truth, but fail to see what you are getting at when you refer to hope and arrogance.
Why is it that I get a feeling that you are aproaching this disgusion as an antagonistic rather than a proagonist in the journey towards truth, being given that truth is not that of only one mind.
BrutusCass: No. The arrogance of believing you know something when you don’t would be. There is a difference between arrogance and hope. The enemies are ignorance stupidity and arrogance.
Klard: What you accept or don’t accept will never change the simple fact that there is a big ditterence between subjective truth and objective truth and by denying that ONE is far too subjective to know all truth is a step backwards in your journey is it not?
BrutusCass: I do not accept the proposition that on cannot know Truth. The pursuit of Truth is what the journey of life is about.
Yes, but if one does not and can not know what is the ulitame truth how does one know which path to take?
BrutusCass : Tha t is what we aspire to and should be moving closer to, not further from.
@OzDeist Yes this may be so, but then that does little to prove the existance of God if in fact seems to suggest that the belief in such is tied strongly to the condition in which one lives, and believe therefore is a sense of hope for more.
Maybe that is something that humans could resolve if they freed up some of that thinking space devoted to religion?
@Carlsarv Yes certain a nice plate of food for thought
@klard That a rather sticky word that “True” what is ulimate truth and should we really be fools enough to claim to know
steelcaress: You illustrate the inherent problem of divorcing law from morality. Law without a moral foundation descends into tyranny and barbarism. The arbitrary view most people take to the law is exactly what was prohibited by the Founding Documents of the Republic of the USA. Government is not free to act on people’s lives arbitrarily. Locking someone up in a concrete box without sufficient justification is immoral. Government is only to protect Liberty.
@klard: You’re confusing morality with law. The laws against cannabis and acid were paid for by the alcohol and tobacco lobbyists, so there would be less competition. Certain of my friends and family, when I protest the morality of such a thing, respond with “They broke the law.” Most people, without such a law in place, would not feel that way at all.
@OzDeist, as an atheist who agrees with Dawkins and has lived a very under-pirviliged existence I must say I agree with him. As difficult as it may initially feel. He is right, to be alive is a gift. I won’t give out personal facts about myself to affirm this point, but I will say I live with severe physical pain each and every day. If it was a choice between this and being able to think freely, or being healthy and ignorant, I choose this.
Wow the ending was awesome!!!
Moral conscience and mutual empathy in society? A lot of us do not agree with locking people in concrete boxes for using a perception altering plant of their own choosing. How is that just and moral? It is certainly acceptable to society.
Don’t we have to use discernment in any body of writing? Would you accept as literally true the entirety of writings by any individual or the collection of writings in a particular scientific field?
God, Dawkins is an optimist. Very easy for him to tell others that this is the only life for enjoyment when he lives a privileged lifestyle in a developed country.
Perhaps his outlook would be completely different if he lived in some poor African village under persecution, or in Josef Fritzl’s basement.